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|  | Enforcing the Charter
« Thread Started on Oct 21, 2009, 8:25am » | |
Hi,
The charter says:
Quote:| These forums are for those who accept the validity of the phenomena discussed here and want to discuss them without being side tracked by debates about whether the phenomena are real. |
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My inclination about enforcing this is to take action if someone posts something that is blatantly against the charter or creates an environment where other people might be reluctant to post their own opinions.
I don't think we need to require members to make a pledge that they agree with the charter.
Some members have expressed their opinions on this subject. If anyone else would like to do so, please reply to this thread or send me a private message.
Thanks
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| | Re: Enforcing the Charter
« Reply #1 on Oct 21, 2009, 8:46am » | |
I probably wouldn't stick around if I had to take some sort of pledge stating that I have a certain set of beliefs. As a scientist, I need to be free to follow the evidence wherever it leads me. As someone who has had unusual experiences, I would like a respectful environment where such experiences can be discussed. As long as people are being respectful I don't really care what thier personal beliefs are.
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| | Re: Enforcing the Charter
« Reply #2 on Oct 22, 2009, 9:24pm » | |
I disagree with sandstone that taking a pledge necessarily means that you are not free to follow the evidence wherever it leads you. After all, if you ever change your mind you can always rescind the pledge and leave. I think that a pledge is important to help stop skeptics from coming to the boards. I think that the internet has really, in some ways, harmed the public discourse around a lot of subjects. This "anything goes" type of attitude has really caused some serious damage. Just look at what happened to the game Too Human after the developers were nice enough to open up to the gamers on the Neogaf forums and allow them to see parts of the development that they would normally not be able to see. We need a LOT more regulation on MANY different forums on the internet. I think that having boards where like-minded people ONLY can come together and talk is important (at least with this subject) and I also think that it is important to force people to at least say that they believe in psi. Otherwise they really have no business being here.
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| | Re: Enforcing the Charter
« Reply #3 on Nov 25, 2009, 5:31am » | |
I very much agree with Sandstone. I mean, skepticism of some sort does have a place in all this.
People do have hallucinations, or embellish stories with later knowledge (forgetting they have done so), and as in all science, there is sometimes fraud.
It seems to me, that people here should be reasonably skeptical, but not unreasonably skeptical, in the way described so well by Rupert Sheldrake:
http://www.sheldrake.org/B&R/audiostream/index.html
As I have pointed out at Skeptiko, if you start by assuming that the experimenter and/or all his subjects are colluding to fake a result, that is also unreasonable - unless you have some real evidence to suggest that!
Ultimately this is a question of banning people who are unreasonable - which is probably best left to common sense! One guy at Skepiko recently got banned for just posting rubbish!
David
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